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<rss version="2.0"><channel><title>carlo.comments - Latest Comments in carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.disqus.com/</link><description>This is the comments section for the sites of Carlo Zottmann.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 01:15:09 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501382</link><description>So you are saying that BARF is the SOAP protocol for Web 2.0 in Iran?</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Tex</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 01:15:09 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501363</link><description>So so so so so so good!</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">jufemaiz</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 03:59:49 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501381</link><description>Those of us of a more discerning bent are already all waiting for Web 4.71. Now it appears we need to wait for Barf 4.71 too!? Shame on you for delaying the eschaton.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Jon</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:49:28 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501380</link><description>how long before Gartner proclaims that BARF is "enterprise-ready"?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i can see a few SOA/BARF "enterprise mashups" already.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Jonathan Rowett</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:20:51 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501379</link><description>I was hoping more for &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Barf_soap.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Barf_soap.jpg&lt;/a&gt; myself.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Carlo</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:01:00 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501378</link><description>at some point somebody will come by your desk with a printout of this:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barf" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barf&lt;/a&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">holger</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:52:49 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501377</link><description>And here was me thinking Web2.0 meant sans serif fonts and gradient-filled round-cornered text boxes.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">http-fleetfootmike.livejournal</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:17:01 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501376</link><description>BARF really comes into it's own when paired with a system of linked Unix terrabyte servers. It is my hope that he framework I am working on to facilitate this, BARF on Sluts, may well increment  the version number of Web.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">31d1</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:05:29 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501375</link><description>I recollect, one senior fellow saying to me recently.&lt;br&gt;"Have you seen that video rental site ? i heard its web2.0 enabled"&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;:)</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Kalyan</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:56:43 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501374</link><description>Ajax-Schmajax, this is just another marketing meme that caught on with the ignorati. Kind of like religion. It's only a matter of time until some 2.Ho apostle shoots up an officeful of old-stylers over, say, the use of too many tabs in their source. Me. I'm just waiting for the rocket---the one that will take me back to frikkin' EARTH!</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Merritt Tricious</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:26:48 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501373</link><description>Would you mind if I ported BARF on Rails to BARF.NET?  I love the Pattern-Oriented Agile Aspect stuff, y'know, and a BARF-POAA implementation could be totally cross-platform, it would end up everywhere.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Slovo</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:20:33 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501372</link><description>This is an actual phone conversation I had earlier this year...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Recruiter: Hi, would you be interested in a position as a front-end engineer at our awesome startup?&lt;br&gt;ME: What is your front-end written in... JSP? PHP? Perl?&lt;br&gt;Recruiter: We use AJAX.&lt;br&gt;ME: ...&lt;br&gt;*CLICK* &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If your recruiters don't know the difference... good luck to you.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Shawn</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:05:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501371</link><description>Hehe yeah, I do get the point, I guess I'm just being snarky. Ignorant/clueless people are everywhere... personally I just ignore them!</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">carlivar</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:10:53 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501370</link><description>bq. AJAX / Web 2.0 is a good thing when people do it right&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course it is. I believe you're missing my point.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Carlo</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:27:32 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501369</link><description>Looks like it reloaded the whole page. Took about 8 seconds. Lame.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry, AJAX / Web 2.0 is a good thing when people do it right, like preventing very slow entire page reloads just to add 100 bytes to the page.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">carlivar</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:17:57 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501368</link><description>Hmm let's see if this comment submission reloads the whole page or if it uses AJAX...</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">carlivar</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:16:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501367</link><description>hey, how'd that comma get in there? sneaky bastard</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">rbelknap</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:13:39 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501366</link><description>Just when I thought it might be safe to really dive back in to teh intarwebs...  I discover, the pool's been filled with BARF all along...</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">rbelknap</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:12:46 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501365</link><description>it's only a matter of time, of course, before "BARF 2.0"</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">http://noshyuz.pip.verisignlab</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:56:31 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501364</link><description>You know, there's a certain poetic beauty to the idea that BARF is driven by lots of feeds.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">jr</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:43:29 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501361</link><description>:-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree that "web 2.0" is one of the most generalized and overused phrases ("health insurance reform" is another) in the recent years, even within the internet engineering or product folks.  As pointed out by your anecdotes, the confusion seems to be between these few things:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* dynamic HTML (even before or without AJAX)&lt;br&gt;* AJAX&lt;br&gt;* user-generated contents (possibly with the experience enhanced with dynamic HTML and/or AJAX)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I recommend &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0&lt;/a&gt; for the first-time user of "web 2.0".</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Nam Nguyen</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:39:30 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: carlo.log &amp;#8594;    &amp;#8220;Web 2.0&amp;#8243;, &amp;#8220;AJAX&amp;#8221;, &amp;#8220;BARF&amp;#8221; - A Call To Action</title><link>http://carlo.zottmann.org/2007/07/19/web-20-ajax-barf-a-call-to-action/#comment-1501362</link><description>I think BARF On Rails would be awesome.</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">http-kentbrewster.com-</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:37:02 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>